Fw: Another Pharisee Answered and Rebuked!

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Marie M. Buchanan, M.Ps.
Researcher, Webmaster, Pastor-Assistant, Translator, Blogger
http://www.the-truth-ministries.us
http://360.yahoo.com/marielovesashley



 

—– Original Message —–

Here’s a summary of what
Anthony Gulyas wrote:
 

"Jacob have I loved, Esau
have I hated"… Esau was a goat, and Jacob was a sheep, so its plain to see and
any believer who is a christian can see there are sheep (believers) and there
are goats (unbelievers).
 
Joh 6:39  And
this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me
I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. What part
of that did you miss.. its plainly stated, the Father gave SOME to his son
Christ, NOT all, so that right there refutes your "universalist salvation"
stance and position. This verse right there refutes your stinking universalism
and universal brotherhood of all men.
 
Futhermore let me ask you,
if Jesus Christ died for all men as you claim, when Jesus died on the cross, did
He also die for those who were in hell during that moment in time??? Think about
this good and hard, for the fact is all those elect LOVED ones who have the
ability by god given faith to understand the TEACHING about Gods true love, know
and fully comprehend that Gods love is indeed limited to the ELECT loved ones
whom God has chosen.
 
Yes God hates goats..
majority of humanity who hate Christ are goats.
 
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A copy is sent to my yahoo
account so it will be posted in my own yahoo groups.
 
In the Service of the Truth
and Justice, (Jn. 14:6)
With the best of
my abilities 
and without taking the top
leadership role like a lot of women pastors do.

After all, when I’ll die I
will meet no one else than my Maker and He will deal with me
accordingly.
 
Marie
—– Original Message —–
From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:52
AM
Subject: Another Pharisee Answered and
Rebuked!
 
 
Message from youtube user:
Ahrnaieanin

In Regards to: Why God Does NOT Love All
Sinners! Video http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=hjIa2f3EK2g


Date: 
11/06/08
Message: 
Jesuitinfiltrator,

 

Had you ever even read the bible? Or randomly looked up verses to support
your claims? Why are you teaching lies to our brothers in sisters?

 

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that
whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did
not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world
through him. John 3:16-17

 

That states clearly that God gave his son, because he Loved the world.
The Greek for world is, κόσμον, which means World, or Cosmos, or Worldly. The
word does not refer to the physical Earth. Moreover Christ came not to condemn
mankind, but to redeem us! Yet you condemn us on His behalf! Did you not
read?

 

For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God,
mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes. –
Deuteronomy 10:17

 

Now let the fear of the LORD be upon you. Judge carefully, for with the
LORD our God there is no injustice or partiality or bribery. – 2 Chronicles
19:7

 

Is he not the One who says to kings, ‘You are worthless,’
and to
nobles, ‘You are wicked,’
who shows no partiality to princes
and does
not favor the rich over the poor,
for they are all the work of his hands? –
Job 34:18-19

 

So the spies questioned him: "Teacher, we know that you speak and teach
what is right, and that you do not show partiality but teach the way of God in
accordance with the truth. – Luke 20:21

 

God does not differential between sin. Sin is Sin, and he seeks to get
rid of it. That is why He sent Jesus to make us clean DAILY. So that our sin
would not stop our relationship with him.
Even Jesus, who IS God is stated
to show no partiality. Now if Jesus taught the ways of God, why does what
Jesus Christ teach that you, and I not agree upon?
Did not Jesus heal the
Samaritan who the Jews thought to be sub-human? And we’re the 10 all healed?
Didn’t Jesus heal the woman who was caught in Adultery? Did He not heal her
either and forgive her of her sins? Didn’t He forgive the sinner where he came
to him at Simon the Leper’s house in Matthew 26:5-7, though He knew she was
full of sin?
Where in the bible do you find Jesus saying to a man, "I do
not Love you, and Will not show Mercy to you.."? Where did you find this
teaching? Where have you gathered your sources?

 

You say you speak on behalf of the Almighty, yet you destroy his people,
and destroy those who would possibly come to know Christ!

 

Why then, if you are so spiritual and biblically sound, does it say in
Romans 5:6-8

 

You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ
died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though
for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his
own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for
us.

 

While we were still powerless. Christ died for the sinner. God loved us
so much, that though we were still sinners, and IN sin. He sent his Son Jesus
Christ to die for our sins.

 

Did you miss that in your reading? Why take things out of context with
Jacob and Esau? Esau was Godless as stated in Hebrews. He sold his birthright
for food? And the verse having to do with human love or emotion. Furthermore,
Esau refers to the Godless descendant, the Edomites, as opposed to the
descendants of Jacob.

 


I come to you as one man, though I am nowhere near perfection, I
boldly declare what I know and what I have been taught by the Holy Spirit
through the Word of God, which is the Sword of the Spirit. God Loves Us. Job
34:14 – If it were his intention, and he withdrew his Spirit and breath, all
mankind would perish together and man would return to dust. I have yet to see
that be God’s intention, unless you are declaring there is no God.

 

For the sake of the unity of the Spirit and those who are brothers and
sisters in Christ, pray over such things, and re-think your theology, because
you ARE wrong in your thinking, for, as Jesus warned, "Beware of false
teachers." You are leading His Sheep far from him, and doing more work for
Satan than you are for God.

 

For the sake of the Spirit, and those in Christ, reconsider your
position.

 

Your brother in Christ,
Charles R. Portwood II

 

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My reply to Mr. Charles R. Portwood II

 


Mr Portword you are a stinking filthy heretic of
the deepest religious dye, let me proceed and explain to you why…

 

1) you accuse me of NOT reading the bible, have YOU
READ it all word for word yourself, have YOU considered every last word, for
Jesus himself said "man shall NOT live by bread alone but by every word that
proceeds out of the mouth of God"… Did you somehow miss Romans 9:13 where
the apostle clearly states Esau have I hated. God is an eternal being and God
is spirit, therefore God eternally loves SOME and eternally HATES all others,
what part of that did you miss in your theological studies, or do you even
study theology to begin with.

 

2) you do NOT have a clue about the exegesis of John
3:16 in relation to the rest of the bible; YOU yes YOU are a universalist,
which is blatant heresy. you cannot take John 3:16 OUT OF CONTEXT from the
rest of the bible… the election of grace is clearly laid out in Gods decree
in Ephesians the first chapter, where it is plain to see the apostle Paul
writes that God the Father gave SOME to Christ his son in election.
Furthermore, John 3:16 in relation to your exposition on the word ‘kosmos’ is
utter rubbish and bunkum, pure balderdash, how’s that grab you in your
heretical teaching concerning Gods love.

 

If you had understood the true nature of Gods love
you wouldn’t even be writing this messege to me, because you would understand
what the bible does teach about the "selective nature" of Gods love. God
doesn’t owe love to any man. While it is true God is merciful to all men as
sinners and tolerates them in their sin, it is pure and utter heresy to even
suggest that Gods love is given to all sinners in a salvational sense, and
roman 9:13 proves this matter of factly in your face with the plain statement
"Jacob have I loved, Esau have I hated"… what part of the REST of Johns
gospel did you miss when John speaks about goats and sheep? Esau was a goat,
and Jacob was a sheep, so its plain to see and any believer who is a christian
can see there are sheep (believers) and there are goats (unbelievers).

 

If you don’t understand that you don’t even
understand the basics of salvation 101. You cannot put God in a position of
unversally offering salvation to ALL men as you would like to suggest with
your erroneous interpretation of John 3:16, simply because there is a
qualification even there which is FAITH. All men do NOT have faith, and faith
is a gift (which is ONLY given to the elect loved ones of God) is NOT given to
all men let alone offered to all men.
 

If you cannot see that, well you are just plain
spiritually blind, simple as that and need to be born again. Furthermore God
doesn’t OFFER salvation to ANYBODY or any sinner period, HE APPLIES salvation
in the covenant of redemption, there is a universe of difference, maybe you
should study a bit more theology before spinning your diatribes.

 

Quote from W.E.Best regarding John 3:16

 

For in this way God loved the world, so that He gave
the unique Son, in order that everyone believing because of Him may not perish
but may have eternal life. —John 3:16 (translation)

 

The conjunction “for” (gar) in this verse, John 3:16,
points back to what had been said. The words “in this way” (houtos, an adverb)
point to what follows. This adverb is connected with God “loved” (aorist
active indicative of agapao). It explains God’s love. The verb agapao is used
in the constative sense. It views the verb in its entirety. When did God the
Father begin His love for the elect? God’s love did not have a beginning. It
is eternal: “…I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with
lovingkindness have I drawn thee” (Jer. 31:3). We love Him because He first
loved us. God has always loved those He chose in Christ Jesus. Conclusively,
the adverb houtos must be understood in the light of the verb it
amplifies.

 

How should we view the love of God? He loved the
world (kosmos). Should we think of God’s love as being so extensive and so
intense that He gave His unique Son? Does the word kosmos include everyone
without exception? Most people think this refers to the extent of God’s love.
However, this text does not refer to quantity but quality. It speaks of the
depth of God’s love, the character of that love. The word kosmos can be used
many ways. For instance, it is used three times in John 1:10 and has a
different meaning each time: “He [Christ] was in the world [kosmos, inhabited
world], and the world [kosmos, material world] was made through Him, and the
world [kosmos, world of unbelievers] did not recognize Him”
(translation).

 

The word kosmos in II Corinthians 5:18-19 refers to
those the Father gave to the Son in the covenant of redemption: “And all
things from God the One having reconciled us to Himself through Christ and
having given to us the ministry of reconciliation, as that God was in Christ
reconciling the world [kosmos, the world of the elect] to Himself…”
(translation). Everyone without exception will not be reconciled to Jesus
Christ. Only those the Father gave to the Son, without the loss of one, will
be reconciled. Jesus Christ was sent from the Father because He loved us
eternally. He came down to where we were. The Holy Spirit imparted in us the
work Jesus Christ accomplished at Calvary, and the love of God was poured out
in our hearts. As a result, Christians love one another. This love is
expressed by all its recipients, and it goes back up in praise, honor, and
glory to the One who loved us with eternal love. Thus, the constative use of
the verb agapao in John 3:16 contemplates love in its entirety.

 

I am giving the truth about Gods love which is
defined within the context of the "election of grace", you are NOT, yet you
condemn the truth I give, God will find you out and expose you and show you
for the lies your false foundation is built on, you can count on that.

 

Futhermore let me ask you, if Jesus Christ died for
all men as you claim, when Jesus died on the cross, did He also die for those
who were in hell during that moment in time??? Think about this good and hard,
for the fact is all those elect LOVED ones who have the ability by god given
faith to understand the TEACHING about Gods true love, know and fully
comprehend that Gods love is indeed limited to the ELECT loved ones whom God
has chosen.

 

You state: Moreover Christ came not to condemn
mankind, but to redeem us! Yet you condemn us on His behalf! Did you not
read?

 

I ask you in reply, did YOU not read what the REST of
the bible states about election and the predestining love of Christ. Your such
a religious hypocryte you know, coming to me with your messege, all justified
in yourself in your know it all stand, you don’t know diddly squat about the
love of God when you do not receive the messege I am giving that Gods love is
limited to the elect loved ones God has chosen. It is filthy religionists like
yourself who twist and pervert the pure word of God to suit your own religious
pharisaical doctrines, well not on this channel buddy, you can just back off
and take your "universalists" fake satanic teaching concerning salvation and
send it back to hell where it came from.

 

It is religionists like you who continually accuse me
and others of  preaching heresy and lies when really its YOU and other
Arminians Pelagians who water down the gospel by your simplistic "easy
believism" fake salvation along the lines of bill brights four spiritual laws
and billy grahams heretical "decisional regeneration".

 

Reconsider my position? haaaa.. you have a lot of
nerve attacking the doctrine of Jesus Christ now don’t you??? Just who do you
think you are anyways, in your arrogance and pride to confront the lofty and
pure transcendant teaching and doctrine of Jesus Christ which you only THINK
you know about but really do not, such were the pharisees during Christs time
as well.

 

Well there is only one last word I have for you here,
REPENT!!!

 

You state: While we were still powerless. Christ died
for the sinner. God loved us so much, that though we were still sinners, and
IN sin. He sent his Son Jesus Christ to die for our sins.

 

Christ Jesus didn’t just die for SINS, He died for
the particular sins of individuals, election is particular and salvation is
particular, you cannot separate the doctrine of election from the love of God
whatsoever as you have tried to do in your heretical interpretation of John
3:16. Ohhh and by the way nice try in your further stupid foolish
interpretation of Romans 9:13… while it is true God hated the edomites the
descendent of Esau as the prophet Malachi prophesies, romans 9:13 is clear, it
speaks of individuals.. specific persons… salvation is specific and
individual… God hated Esau… and yes God hates goats.. majority of humanity
who hate Christ are goats.. broad is the road that leads to destruction and
FEW be that find it Jesus tells us… salvation is not for ALL, even though it
is preached to all, but you wouldn’t understand that in your humanistic
polytheistic free will religion now would you. Also there is NO universal
salvation offered in reality to ALL sinners in Romans 5:6-8… irregardless of
what you would LIKE to imply. You cannot take one passage out of the bible OUT
OF CONTEXT from the rest of the bible. All those whom Christ died for, HIS
elect loved ones will have faith and will believe simply because God enables
them to do so, its that simple, but to even suggest that God offers salvation
in the effectual call of the spirit is heresy. Just because the seed is sown
to all men and preached to all men, does not imply God effectual calls all
men. Perhaps you would care to read on in Johns gospel

 

Joh 6:39  And this is the Father’s will which
hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but
should raise it up again at the last day.

 

What part of that did you miss.. its plainly stated,
the Father gave SOME to his son Christ, NOT all, so that right there refutes
your "universalist salvation" stance and position.

 

All those whom the Father has given to the son in the
covenant of redemption and grace WILL BE saved, there is nothing in there
about whosoever will NOR a free will choice. While we are held accountable to
choose Christ all of us, there is nothing in the bible about the sinner having
a FREE or UNFETTERED UNHINDERED WILL… mans free will was lost in the fall,
but of your you wouldn’t understand that being an Arminian Pelagian. There are
TWO WHOSOEVER WILLS in the bible .. read Matthew 16:25… one whosoever will
for the elect and one for the goats, NOT ONE GENERAL whosoever will invitation
as you maintain and claim in your delusion. That verse right there refutes
your stinking universalism and universal brotherhood of all men.

 

So I send back your messege to you and implore YOU
yes YOU to stop spreading YOUR HERESIES amongst those who call themselves
followers of Christ.

 

See I knew pharisees like you would be sending me
messeges like you have sent, which is exactly why I posted that video to begin
with, to flush your heretics out of the woodwork… you have a FORM OF
GODLINESS but not the power of God in your life to understand the truth about
Gods word, you only think and CLAIM you do, there are NOT two or more correct
interpretations of ONE single bible verse, there is only THE TRUTH and if you
had the true agape love of God and anointing of the truth 1 John 2:20,27, you
would know what I am speaking about…. but you do not, how sad for your
deplorable lost condition indeed.

 

Well at least your consistent with the rest of the
pharisees I have met, you seek to instruct others yet you make yourself
twice and your disciples you win to your heresies twice the sons of
hell moreso than yourself…. no wonder Jesus condemned the motives, thoughts,
teachings and attitudes of the pharisees of men like yourself.

 

Enough of your rot, you have been answered squarely
and truthfully, if this doesn’t help you see truth, well you need to be born
again, its that simple, you need something you dont have.

 

 

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